Oct 04, 2007, 11:43 AM // 11:43
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#21
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Sep 2007
Guild: They May Be Dead [DEAD]
Profession: N/
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Originally Posted by cyberjanet
Wouldn't it be nice if the parents actually did this. I think it would reduce offensive behaviour in public dramatically.
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I couldn't agree more, and should I ever breed, I plan to.
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However, that's not what I want to talk about. Someone joined our guild who said they were a 16 year old girl. Gave me a lot of information about their private life etc, and then left very suddenly with a weird excuse.
If I think about all the discrepancies in their story (this they, their etc looks very strange but it's the only way I can think of to keep it gender neutral) I wonder exactly how "16" and how "girl" they were.
I guess I'll never found out, but I'm seriously suspicious. The only young boy in our guild at the time was having internet problems, and wasn't online ever during that week, thank goodness. Only the 30+ crowd was around.
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You never truly know, it's a strange strange world out there. I know a lot of 'young girls' who tend to have very.. how shall we say 'vivid' imaginations regarding what they talk about as their 'private life.' How many girls sometimes even boys, as young as 13-14 brag about having gay friends, or being bisexual or gay//lesbians themselves? Or stories of 'molestation' as their way of explaining why they're such a basket case. (The last person I'd tell about being molested is a total stranger, I met online, least of all in Guild Wars. Things like that rarely sneak under my bullshit radar.)
Some young boys//girls and even OLDER boys and girls in the online gaming world just play the opposite gender character just because they think they'll receive different treatment. Girls playing guys so they aren't creeped on. Guys playing girls for jokes or to leech their way around, (or if you're like me, you play some girl characters because the sprites just LOOK better than the male of the same class. Prime examples being Ritualist, Assassin, Ranger, Monk.)
I cant say I blame you for being curious//suspicious of your former guildmate.
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Oct 04, 2007, 04:58 PM // 16:58
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#22
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Oct 2006
Guild: Ruthless Mafia [RM]
Profession: Mo/
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Just last night I was playing at 2:17 AM EST. At that time I just reached Rata Sum with another person, and I asked if he had time to continue on with the quests. He told me that he was 28 and didn't have a bed time since he was 14. He was clearly insulted. Anyway, that's not what I meant - only that in the American time zones most people would say that was enough time and log off.
In the past I've played with lots of younger people. Most are mature. I also played with someone who seemed to struggle to tell us that he was too young to be playing the game, but he acted mature. I don't know why he acted like he was a little worried that he'd be reported.
My other main experience is I joined a guild where people let their children play and made it a rule not to say anything obscene. I didn't like the guild because the few times I said something that would be considered offensive to children their age, they played it off as a guildie being silly and warned me. If they didn't have their young children playing, then they'd be fine. If they had the swear filter on, anything I say would be caught by it. I don't trick the swear filter like some do (e.g. shi.t ). Their kids probably gold farm for them! I can't understand why people let kids that young play highly addictive online games.
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Oct 04, 2007, 06:24 PM // 18:24
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#23
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Jun 2006
Profession: E/
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We already have a filtering system in place to protect the kids and we have /report to report those who behave badly and use bad langauge etc etc.
If we litterally split the ages into two camps, where would I go being 25?
As much as I prefere the older crowd cos their more mature (usually), what if no one of my age was online?
Who decides the devide?
Imagine trying to make a HM team when you split the ages up. Its hard enough already without splitting t hem.
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Oct 04, 2007, 06:35 PM // 18:35
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#24
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Desert Nomad
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I'll be perfectly honest with ya bud, If I heard you cussing up a storm around my little girl, I'd break your jaw. It's nothing personal, just difference of background and opinion, my parents RAISED ME better than that, some parents try to do the same.
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They raised you so well that your response to people using words you don't like is to physically assault them, eh? Quite a job they did.
"Bad" words are bad because society chooses to view them as such, nothing more. As someone said above, if they weren't "taboo" they'd barely see use. As it stands, I just find the whole phenomenon of people finding one word that means something offensive and another word that means the same thing acceptable ridiculously funny.
All that said, respecting other people's beliefs (no matter how ridiculous) is just plain politeness.
Last edited by Vinraith; Oct 04, 2007 at 06:40 PM // 18:40..
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Oct 04, 2007, 08:42 PM // 20:42
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#25
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Banned
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Fisherman's Haven
Guild: Endangered Species List [List]
Profession: W/E
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/goat
Blech. This thread is just so uninteresting. Playing this game creates about the same risk level for your kid as sending him to the baker's. In fact less because most people on GW don't live anywhere near you. Strangers are either friends waiting to happen or rape in a dark alley waiting to happen but either way there's not much anybody can do about it. GW should not become a neocon police state where every player is checked for age, gender, sexual preference, psychological problems... I mean we could always try making a
"Little Boys Here Districts - English 1" and see what happens, but if I were you I wouldn't lose any sleep over this... It's trivial, at best.
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Oct 04, 2007, 08:53 PM // 20:53
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#26
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Sep 2005
Guild: Pwn Appetit [NJoy]
Profession: W/
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Originally Posted by Craywulf
Parenting means getting involved with Children's hobbies. Play the game with your kid, have fun while protecting them from creeps out there. Guild Wars is like any other interactive software, there's always going to be a way for creeps to abuse the software to prey on others. Limit your child's time with these kinds of software is your best hope in protecting them. Fostering the mentality of being cautious and careful about what you say to strangers online is huge step towards protection. These are all common sense ideas that have been around since the dawn of chat software.
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This is the worst kind of parent. My mom is really too involved. I am 12 and I will amlost be 13. When I turn 13 and become an adult I can use swears but until then my mom is all on my case. If someone uses swears she makes me log off and I have to go to bed without supper.
When I turn 13 and become adult I will cuss out the entire world and I dont want to get blocked off my game when that day comes. I think its just part of being adult, you get to use swears and ppl that cant just have to deal until they turn adult. I am going through this now and I cant wait to be done with this. Not using swears is like wearing a diaper.
Seriously when I become adult I will marry britney spears and we will have 7 kids and I will make my own team and not have to play with stupid heroes all the time and I will use swears and laugh at my kids because they cant use them till they are adults. And nobody can say no to being in my team or they dont get pizza. And then they will see how it feels to go to bed hungry.
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Oct 04, 2007, 08:57 PM // 20:57
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#27
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Behind you with a knife
Guild: Celebrity Gangsters [FamE]
Profession: Me/
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I wonder if Ladyrhavyn really lives in Alaska.
I don't think there should be a separation, it'll only keep the honest adults out of the younger kids servers. Same for the chat filter, you have a choice to see the swears and a choice to give out personal information. If you're smart you'll tell your kids not to release personal information out onto the internet, playing by itself doesn't release anything except a character.
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Oct 04, 2007, 09:13 PM // 21:13
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#28
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Belgium
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splitting up by age is almost as silly as mature guilds or girls only guilds
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Oct 04, 2007, 09:30 PM // 21:30
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#29
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Behind you with a knife
Guild: Celebrity Gangsters [FamE]
Profession: Me/
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Originally Posted by Elena
splitting up by age is almost as silly as mature guilds or girls only guilds
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There's nothing silly about a mature guild or girls only guild. There are way to many idiots **ahem** out there that can ruin fun because someone's being an immature jackass or there's a constant, annoying trend of boys hitting on your girl character. Feminists and adults need thier space from the 13 year old boys running rampant around GW. RAmen.
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Oct 04, 2007, 11:05 PM // 23:05
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#30
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Might find me roaming around doing missions in hard mode...or maybe I'm lost in the Underworld...
Guild: [KCOR]
Profession: Mo/
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Splitting up the game into +17 and -17 may cause a lot of problems because it would advertise to the ones looking to exploit children as to where they are most likely to find them. Then, as the OP said, they could lie about their age. I agree that this is not ANets responsibility. I also think that most people with malinetntions stick to places they can go for free because they expect more children there. Yes, GW has no monthly fee, but it does cost more than simply getting onto a chat room.
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Oct 04, 2007, 11:51 PM // 23:51
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#31
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Sep 2007
Profession: Mo/N
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Nooo. You're Just Going To Divide Districts So Much That I'll Never Be Able To Get A Group Without My Guild Who Happens To Be Younger And Older Than Me!
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Oct 04, 2007, 11:52 PM // 23:52
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#32
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Academy Page
Join Date: Jul 2005
Profession: R/Me
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cyberjanet
Wouldn't it be nice if the parents actually did this. I think it would reduce offensive behaviour in public dramatically.
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More of us do than you give us credit for, methinks. For what it's worth, I'm not a supporter of the OP's suggestion.
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Oct 05, 2007, 12:36 AM // 00:36
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#33
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Sep 2007
Guild: They May Be Dead [DEAD]
Profession: N/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinraith
They raised you so well that your response to people using words you don't like is to physically assault them, eh? Quite a job they did.
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Vulgarity begets vulgarity.
You never got a spanking when you were a kid?
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"Bad" words are bad because society chooses to view them as such, nothing more. As someone said above, if they weren't "taboo" they'd barely see use. As it stands, I just find the whole phenomenon of people finding one word that means something offensive and another word that means the same thing acceptable ridiculously funny.
All that said, respecting other people's beliefs (no matter how ridiculous) is just plain politeness.
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What sort of 'belief system' finds trashy language appropriate?
Think-for-your-selfers and bratty kids.
You're trying to make it sound like having potty mouth is a lifestyle choice like being gay or a vegan. The previous two are okay, and swearing is too, but theres a time and place for everything. Public school teachers dropping bombs in a kindergarten class doesn't strike me as the right time or place imo.
'Alright class! we're going to sing the alphabet! F*CKIN' EH!'
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